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		<title>Lars Rasmussen talks to CNET UK</title>
		<link>http://firstwaves.org/google-on-wave-itll-be-five-years-before-we-can-say-this-actually-works-crave-at-cnet-uk/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it’s not going to happen overnight. It will be five years before we can say “this actually works.” Lars Rasmussen on Google Wave via CNET UK. Told you soLars Rasmussen talks to CNET UK is a post from First Waves<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/google-on-wave-itll-be-five-years-before-we-can-say-this-actually-works-crave-at-cnet-uk/">Lars Rasmussen talks to CNET UK</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>But it’s not going to happen overnight. It will be five years before we can say “this actually works.”</blockquote>

<p><cite><a href="http://crave.cnet.co.uk/software/0,39029471,49305480,00.htm">Lars Rasmussen on Google Wave via <span class="caps">CNET</span> UK</a>.</cite></p>

<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/wave-on-slow-cook/">Told you so</a></p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/google-on-wave-itll-be-five-years-before-we-can-say-this-actually-works-crave-at-cnet-uk/">Lars Rasmussen talks to CNET UK</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>A quote from Novell: Demonstrating Inter-company Collaboration</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA["The promise is that each organization can choose what product to use and the communication will flow unimpeded between the different systems, in the same way that people on different email systems can send and receive messages to each other today."<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/a-quote-from-novell/">A quote from Novell: Demonstrating Inter-company Collaboration</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>The Google Wave Federation Protocol excited us, because for the first time since email, it provided a way for collaboration systems to cooperate in a non silo’d way . The promise is that each organization can choose what product to use and the communication will flow unimpeded between the different systems, in the same way that people on different email systems can send and receive messages to each other today. This is a collaboration revolution we wanted to be a part of.
</blockquote> <cite><a href="http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2010/03/novell-pulse-and-google-wave.html">“Novell Pulse and Google Wave” — Google Wave Developer Blog</a>.</cite>

<p>This is exciting. More detail up soon.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/a-quote-from-novell/">A quote from Novell: Demonstrating Inter-company Collaboration</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>Lars: Remove Participant Feature due “Within a Month”</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>We have begun testing remove participant internally and hopefully it will hit externally within a month </blockquote> <cite>Lars Rasmussen, one of the lead Wave developers.</cite><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/lars-remove-participant-feature-due-within-a-month/">Lars: Remove Participant Feature due “Within a Month”</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>We have begun testing remove participant internally and hopefully it will hit externally within a month </blockquote> <cite>Lars Rasmussen, one of the lead Wave developers.</cite>

<p>In a Wave entitled “<a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=wave&amp;passive=true&amp;nui=1&amp;continue=https%3A%2F%2Fwave.google.com%2Fwave%2F&amp;followup=https%3A%2F%2Fwave.google.com%2Fwave%2F&amp;ltmpl=standard">Google Wave User Black List</a>”, Lars piped up to offer advice on the best way to avoid and take action against known trolls and abusers and offered the above titbit about the imminent release of the ability to remove participants from Wave.</p>

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<p>This is big news for Wave, and one of the most important features noticeably missing from the Google Wave interface. Wave abuse, trolling and destruction are all unavoidable realities of using Wave at the moment, and although usually infrequent, can significantly lower the enjoyment and tone of a Wave. Unfortunately, while every one can agree that a removal tool is necessary (and there’s an unusable greyed out button to show that the Wave team think it’s important as well) it hasn’t been implemented yet. One of the reasons for this delay must be the extraordinary thought and research that must be put into such a feature, to make certain that the feature itself is not abused. Care must be taken to see that users who are added and then removed retain some control of their legitimate contributions within context. The ability to remove people from such a collaborative space is an enormous can of worms, and one that most people would agree is important enough to get right the first time.</p>

<p>The wave that Lars opened up on was created to list known trolls and spammers.  </p>

<blockquote><ul><li>Once you have added public with full access, making an abuse user read-only is more effective than removing them from the wave will.</li>
	<li>There will soon be a way for you to report abuse directly to our internal abuse team
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	<li>The feature you are asking for: block a user from a particular wave <em>and all future waves created by you</em> is exactly right but it will take us many months to get there…</li></ul></blockquote> <cite> Further feedback from Lars</cite>

<p>This is tremendous news, and along with the ability to make participants <a href="http://firstwaves.org/restore-a-wave-to-a-former-state-or-make-it-read-only/">read-only</a>, and even <a href="http://firstwaves.org/karma-a-way-to-keep-wavers-in-line/">score them with karma</a> give users a powerful arsenal to shape the Wave experience the way they want.</p>

<p>Hat tip to <a href="http://www.theshinywave.com/news/google-wave-user-black-list/">The Shiny Wave: Google Wave User Black List</a>.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/lars-remove-participant-feature-due-within-a-month/">Lars: Remove Participant Feature due “Within a Month”</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>Expectations</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Set suitable expectations. Despite the months of buzz, and blogosphere– and Twitterverse-wide clamoring for Google Wave invites, the product is still in preview and has some rough edges. Therefore, it does all parties good to be realistic, even if everybody is psyched to be the first kid on their block to use it on a [...]<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/expectations/">Expectations</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>Set suitable expectations. Despite the months of buzz, and blogosphere– and Twitterverse-wide clamoring for Google Wave invites, the product is still in preview and has some rough edges. Therefore, it does all parties good to be realistic, even if everybody is psyched to be the first kid on their block to use it on a live project.</blockquote>

<p><cite><a href="http://webworkerdaily.com/2009/11/09/using-google-wave-on-your-first-project-6-tips/">6 Tips For Using Google Wave On Your First Project</a>.</cite></p>

<p>This is the first of six excellent things to keep in mind when using Wave for the first time, let alone on a project. Wave is full of potential, but people seem to forget it’s still just getting off the ground.</p>

<p>I love that people are using it for projects already.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/expectations/">Expectations</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>A Wave Extension Market Place?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This will be a very important development in the success of Wave. The iPhone has grown enormously by making high quality apps simple to pay for and receive. The key difference for Wave will be that the protocol is open for anyone to extend, and the main client (the Google Wave interface) is web based.<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/a-wave-extension-market-place/">A Wave Extension Market Place?</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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<p><cite><a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/google-wave-to-have-application-store-644809">Google Wave to have application store | News | TechRadar UK</a></cite></p>

<p>This will be a very important development in the success of Wave. The iPhone has grown enormously by making high quality apps simple to pay for and receive. The key difference for Wave will be that the protocol is open for anyone to extend, and the main client (the Google Wave interface) is web based.</p>

<p></p>

<p>Keep in mind too, that over time other clients will emerge that will access the Wave protocol, and it will be interesting to see if the marketplace will extend to such clients.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/a-wave-extension-market-place/">A Wave Extension Market Place?</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>3 Things you should know about Wave</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 22:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://wave.google.com/wave/?nouacheck. Fors: Shortcuts and searches in Google Wave. gxg at FORS Shortcuts and useful searches already, but the information about URLs is important and useful. One take-away from the section on searches is the reader tip published at Lifehacker about limiting waves to certain languages.3 Things you should know about Wave is a post from [...]<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/3-things-you-should-know-about-wave/">3 Things you should know about Wave</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><a href="https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=wave&amp;passive=true&amp;nui=1&amp;continue=https%3A%2F%2Fwave.google.com%2Fwave%2F%3Fnouacheck.&amp;followup=https%3A%2F%2Fwave.google.com%2Fwave%2F%3Fnouacheck.&amp;ltmpl=standard">https://wave.google.com/wave/?nouacheck.</a></blockquote>
<cite><a href="http://exde601e.blogspot.com/2009/10/shortcuts-and-searches-in-google-wave.html">Fors: Shortcuts and searches in Google Wave</a>.</cite>

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<p>gxg at <span class="caps">FORS </span><a href="http://firstwaves.org/learn-these-now/">Shortcuts</a> and <a href="http://firstwaves.org/more-wave-searches/">useful searches</a> already, but the information about <span class="caps">URL</span>s is important and useful.</p>

<p>One take-away from the section on searches is the reader tip <a href="http://lifehacker.com/5383537/from-the-tips-box-finding-cellphones-copy-file-path-in-finder-and-more-wave-filters/">published at Lifehacker</a> about limiting waves to certain languages.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/3-things-you-should-know-about-wave/">3 Things you should know about Wave</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>The problems Wave solves</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA["Wave is built for the corporate environment. It’s a tool for getting work done. And as far as those go, it’s an excellent tool, even at this very early stage."<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/i-believe-that-people-who-dont-see-what-google-wave-is-for-are-simply-looking-at-it-from-the-wrong-angle-wave-is-not-a-social-tool-its-not-twitter-its-not-gtalk-its-not-facebook-it-was-never-designed/">The problems Wave solves</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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<cite><a href="http://danieltenner.com/posts/0012-google-wave.html">danieltenner.com — What problems does Google WaveÂ solve?</a></cite><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/i-believe-that-people-who-dont-see-what-google-wave-is-for-are-simply-looking-at-it-from-the-wrong-angle-wave-is-not-a-social-tool-its-not-twitter-its-not-gtalk-its-not-facebook-it-was-never-designed/">The problems Wave solves</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>Wave and Real Time Collaboration</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA["The beauty of it is, the user can control the experience and dictate its purpose."<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/wave-and-real-time-collaboration/">Wave and Real Time Collaboration</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>This in no way represents a new social networking tool, and I think using it as such would be rather cumbersome. The beauty of it is, the user can control the experience and dictate its purpose.</blockquote>

<p><cite><a href="http://www.michaelfruchter.com/blog/2009/10/google-wave-is-the-future-of-real-time-collaboration/">Google Wave Is The Future of Real Time Collaboration</a></cite></p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/wave-and-real-time-collaboration/">Wave and Real Time Collaboration</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>The Freedom Problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 09:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of this freedom - being able to add to, edit, or delete anyone else’s blip in any wave - doesn’t just lead to accidental destruction but concerns about people “putting words into their mouths”, and raises a number of trust issues for many.<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/the-freedom-problem/">The Freedom Problem</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote></blockquote> <cite><a href="http://blog.tarynhicks.com.au/early-thoughts-on-google-wave/">Early thoughts on Google Wave</a></cite>

<p>I’m certain that this will not be as big an issue in later iterations of Wave, and there are already some safeguards in place. Nevertheless, it is a real issue to watch as Wave matures.</p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/the-freedom-problem/">The Freedom Problem</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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		<title>What You’re Missing About Google Wave</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA["What is amazing is that Google has developed a real-time communication framework that can work in a federated environment."<p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/what-is-amazing-is-that-google-has-developed-a-real-time-communication-framework-that-can-work-in-a-federated-environmentpeople-arent-getting-it-right-now-because-theyre-expecting-the-beta-to-all-be-a/">What You’re Missing About Google Wave</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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<p><cite><a href="http://macrolinz.com/macrolinz/index.php/2009/10/01/the-point-youre-missing-about-google-wave/"></a></cite></p><p><a href="http://firstwaves.org/what-is-amazing-is-that-google-has-developed-a-real-time-communication-framework-that-can-work-in-a-federated-environmentpeople-arent-getting-it-right-now-because-theyre-expecting-the-beta-to-all-be-a/">What You’re Missing About Google Wave</a> is a post from <a href="http://firstwaves.org">First Waves</a></p>
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